--- title: Interview with Mike Perrone of the Professional Aviation Safety Specialists description: Mike Perrone describes successes in building sustainable large-scale collaboration between the union and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). --- ![Overland Resource Group](https://www.orginc.com/hs-fs/hubfs/ORG_2017_Q1/ORG.jpg?t=1483128475379&width=215&name=ORG.jpg "Overland Resource Group") For full functionality of this site it is necessary to **enable JavaScript**. Here are the [instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser](http://www.enable-javascript.com/). - [Login](https://org.mocaworks.com/logon/) - [913.829.1241](tel:9138291241) [![ORG_Brand_Logo_215x102-01.png](https://www.orginc.com/hs-fs/hubfs/ORG_2017_Q1/ORG_Brand_Logo_215x102-01.png?width=215&height=102&name=ORG_Brand_Logo_215x102-01.png "ORG_Brand_Logo_215x102-01.png")](https://orginc-2633051-hs-sites-com.sandbox.hs-sites.com/) - [What We Do](https://www.orginc.com/what-we-do) - [Organizations](https://www.orginc.com/organization) - [Organizations + Unions](https://www.orginc.com/organizations-unions) - [Case Studies](https://www.orginc.com/case-studies) - [Who We Are](https://www.orginc.com/who-we-are) - [Blog](https://www.orginc.com/blog) - [Podcasts](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts) - [Careers](https://www.orginc.com/careers) - [Contact Us](https://www.orginc.com/contact-us) # Podcasts ## Interview with Mike Perrone of the Professional Aviation Safety Specialists by [Overland Resource Group](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/author/overland-resource-group), on Jun 3, 2013 Mike Perrone, National President, Professional Aviation Safety Specialists (PASS), describes successes in building sustainable large-scale collaboration between the union and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). He shares first hand insights into shifting relationships, from the tenuous first steps in building the level of trust required to building momentum that moved PASS and FAA from conflict to collaboration.        [Transcript ›](https://www.orginc.com/hubfs/ORG_Podcast/2017-transcript/ORG_Podcast_Perrone-Interview_2016-02-01.pdf) - [Tweet](https://twitter.com/share) ### Leaders Share Turnaround Tales In the Overland Profiles in Collaboration Interview series, we share first-hand accounts from union leaders, management executives and organizational change experts who have led, and lived, conflict-to-collaboration transformations. When we can work together... we wind up with my fingerprints and your fingerprints on the final product. We're much more likely to embrace it-- to operate with it-- because we helped design it. That's collaboration," said Randy Babbitt, Southwest Airlines senior vice president of labor relations, retired FAA Administrator, and former president of the Airline Pilots Association These leaders have disproved the myth that labor and management have to be adversaries by the very nature of their roles; that confrontation is what they do; that disagreeable is just how they are. Their stories are inspiring; their results impressive, their resolve unshakeable. Read More  ### Subscribe to Email Updates ### Recent Posts ### Blog Archive - [July 2016 (4)](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/archive/2016/07) - [February 2016 (1)](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/archive/2016/02) - [January 2016 (2)](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/archive/2016/01) - [December 2015 (2)](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/archive/2015/12) - [November 2015 (1)](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/archive/2015/11) - [June 2013 (3)](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/archive/2013/06) - [February 2013 (1)](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/archive/2013/02) - [January 2013 (2)](https://www.orginc.com/podcasts/archive/2013/01) see all ### Overland Resource Group PO Box 23592 Overland Park, KS 66283 [913-829-1241](tel:+9138291241) 866-691-0770 ### From Our Blog ### Let's Connect ### Subscribe to Newsletter © 2026 Overland Resource Group, INC. [Privacy Policy](https://www.orginc.com/privacy-policy) Website By[Tank New Media](https://www.tanknewmedia.com) ![](https://dc.ads.linkedin.com/collect/?pid=164868&fmt=gif)